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Fordham University School of Law

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from Brian Dalton, Breaking Media Director of Research

The ATL School and Firm Insiders Survey asks self-identified current students, alumni, and practicing lawyers to rate major aspects of life at their law school (academics, social life, clinical training, career services, financial aid advising) and/or law firm (compensation, hours, morale, culture, training). We then translate these ratings into letter grades, where the mean score for each particular ratings category is the equivalent of a “B.”

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The faculty is excellent, encourages diverse interests during law school and has provided career support in the eight years since I graduated. The school provides high quality instruction, excellent clinics and public interest programs, and has good relationships with firms and the judiciary in NYC.

It s a pretty big place. If you are motivated and manage to get into the top 10% of your class, then there is no need to go to Harvard (other than if you want a career change later on) b/c all law firms have NY offices and hiring in NYC goes Harvard, Yale, NYU, Columbia, Fordham, the rest.

It s a tweener, admittedly. However, the biggest drawback of Fordham Law is that it is attached to Fordham University. In terms of faculty, academics, placement, prestige of journals or most other objective metrics, it s rated much higher than its USNews ranking would betray.

take all opportunities to get into clinics/extracurricular pro bono practice

The student body is extremely cooperative and non-competitive in affect.

Within NYC, it s competitive with the T14 for Biglaw jobs as a first year. With law review and top grades, it remains so over time as a lateral, but otherwise it doesn t travel well, nor does it retain the peer level as you get further along in your career. Hiring attorneys both in-house and at firms generally have more respect for it as an institution than head-hunters do, so it s imperative to go around them at times, especially if your experience is credible.

It is a huge School and you definitely should go to the night program, because there are less classes, but your grades count with those of the day students. Therefore you have a higher chance of top10%dom. Also on that path you can have a night job so you can afford to pay NYC rent. School is in a great location, but rent, don t even bother with campus housing (MASSIVE RIP OFF). In NY NY firm hiring goes (Harvard, Columbia, Yale, Cornell, Fordham) and in NY it is highly ranked . but not so muh outside of NY and when banks are doing badly, NY offices of NY firms are doing badly, and maybe they don t get around to hiring from number five that year.

Much higher quality than its ranking would belie. Has a huge evening program that drags down the numbers, because evening students tend to be somewhat less qualified than day students. Second to few in terms of employment prospects at big firms.

There is a good community of students interested in public interest, but not a great track record of getting jobs before graduation. Like pretty much any law school, Fordham is not a great investment in a bad economy.

Administration is quite lacking. Maybe the brand new expensive school they re building for after we graduate will make things better.

Fordham has a great presence in New York City, with alum represented in virtually all the big law firms. Because of its convenient location in Midtown, we have access to amazing panelists/guest speakers, internships, community service programs, and classes that truly take advantage of the resources available in the city.

Fordham is very corporate driven, but there is an amazing public interest program lurking under the surface with a great staff and a thousand student groups doing actual legal work. It s invaluable to visit the Public Interest Resource Center early and often.

Great place for a job with the big dogs.

I really think the quality of the students and faculty are excellent and being in New York City is a huge advantage for internships and jobs. The law school is very well run but is hindered by a university that is not so well run. The university also hurts the law school by siphoning off up to 30% of law school tuition money to support other grad school programs. Overall, I m very happy with my experience here and would recommend it over several higher-ranked schools. However, with the current job market, any prospective applicant should decide for themselves if going to ANY school is worth the risk/debt.

It s quite possible to get a V100 summer associate position as a Fordham student so long as you are proactive. The career center isn t going to hand you a job; they offer a number of counseling seminars etc. but it is up to you to attend them and follow the advice given at them.

There is a good community of students interested in public interest, but not a great track record of getting jobs before graduation. Like pretty much any law school, Fordham is not a great investment in a bad economy.

Professors are great and the classes are taught well. Unfortunately, many students don t really have a real interest in learning the material. There are an excessively high number of gunners and the faculties suck (building, library, study spaces) which just makes the school even more depressing.

Places better than schools ranked 15 places higher.

The school has amazing professors(very accessible) and a very strong alumni network(advocate for their alma mater). If you are looking for big law and placement in the city their are very few schools that offer the same prospects and exposure. The student body is pretty dynamic and while focused on getting good grades, they are not focused on doing so at other s expense. The school s facilities are less than desirable, but the new law school is being built which will be amazing once complete. The financial aid is negligible and dealing with the office is like negotiating with someone starting from the position of, no.

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